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so, you know, what makes this government work, is compromise, and, it is when you don't compromise, there is stasis -- >> you say 400,000 you could live with, not happily -- >> isn't that the question i will get asked? where does the money go? let's say it is $400,000. people vote $400,000, pay 39.3. >> chris: which is roughly $600 billion. >> if i'm asked at home, senator graham, what will we do with the money, what will i say. >> it is added to make up the deficit that everyone has been discussing -- >> it goes for -- >> not new spending. you know, you gets down to another thing, which was a very bad idea, and that is sequester. and whether sequester goes into effect or not. >> chris: well, that -- >> that is the 800 pound gorilla. >> chris: let me ask you about that. i enjoyed your brief state as the host of fox news sunday. >> i think it is a good jeegs i do, too. senator graham, all washington has been talking about is the tax side of the cliff. let's talk about intending side of the cliff, there is still as part of the cliff, $110 billion sequestered. automatic cuts, defense cuts, d
so, you know, what makes this government work, is compromise, and, it is when you don't compromise, there is stasis -- >> you say 400,000 you could live with, not happily -- >> isn't that the question i will get asked? where does the money go? let's say it is $400,000. people vote $400,000, pay 39.3. >> chris: which is roughly $600 billion. >> if i'm asked at home, senator graham, what will we do with the money, what will i say. >> it is added to make up the...
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you're talking about 8 days of funding for the united states government. >> right. >> medicare -- >> when spending comes in. >> we have a medicare program where people are paying one third of the cost and 20 million more americans will be on it the next ten years and we have yet to deal with that. >> one other thing that the president said during this interview. he was asked about chuck hagel used to be a republican senator, his name has surfaced as a possible secretary of defense. there have been complaints about him, about some votes he made, vis-a-vis iran and comments he made about gays and some other things he said about israel and here was the question from david gregory. . >> do you think disqualify him? >> not that i see. i've served with chuck hagel. i know him. he's a patriot. somebody who has done extraordinary work both in the united states senate, somebody who served this country with valor in vietnam. and is somebody who's currently serving on my advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> do you have any problems with senator hagel? >> i thought susan rice was goin
you're talking about 8 days of funding for the united states government. >> right. >> medicare -- >> when spending comes in. >> we have a medicare program where people are paying one third of the cost and 20 million more americans will be on it the next ten years and we have yet to deal with that. >> one other thing that the president said during this interview. he was asked about chuck hagel used to be a republican senator, his name has surfaced as a possible...
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that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up. gwen: let's move on. because there's one more thing we want to go to. from iran to syria to libya to egypt to israeli, palestinian standoff over gaza, the obama administration's wishes have seldom been grapted. >> we and the world have joined in condemning the brutality of the assad regime. >> no one wants to determine what happened that night in benghazi more than the president and
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but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know, government can' make an economy as a whole. >> they don't have much power. we have to demand more from big business. neil: wil the govenment demand that? >> business can hardly keep up with the corporate climb. barclays, jpmorgan chase, now, wasko, 3 billion-dollar fine. we have to save these corporations. they were built on the backs of american workers. build buildout by american taxpayers. recording record profits. sitting on trillions of dollars, keeping them away from their owners and the investors a the workers. neil: are you saying that there was crime involved? there was no crime involved. are you saying that all of these guys are typical? in other words with that there are more bad guys and good guys? >> the big guys have too much power and are too big to fail and all that. >> leches take the fortune 500. would you say, you mentioned three prominent companies. would you say that is 3%? 5%? 50%? i just disagree
but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know, government can' make an economy as a whole. >> they don't have much power. we have to demand more from big business. neil: wil the govenment demand that? >> business can hardly keep up with the corporate climb. barclays, jpmorgan chase, now, wasko, 3 billion-dollar fine. we have to save these corporations. they were built on the backs of american workers. build...
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instead, will be paying taxes on lobbying indentured servants of the government. this is absolutely immoral to have this happen. this is what congress is passing on to us and s why conservatives in the house and senate need to be serious about these fiscal cliff tops, especially about the debt ceiling, not just sitting back and saying president obama won the election. if we don't act now my generation will spend our prime years being servants of the government, and that's not right. tom: i hope you do. i give you one more step before you go. the amount of interest that we pay on the debt that china owes, owns of our debt is enough to pay for their entire military for the whole year. we are basically funding with that the debt china military. thank you. i appreciate you coming on. well, forget the fiscal cliff. washington might be sending cows washington might be sending cows off a cliff. ♪ music kids will spend 22 minutes watching us, the super duper party troopers, sing about ants in their pants. brushing for two minutes now, can save your child from severe too
instead, will be paying taxes on lobbying indentured servants of the government. this is absolutely immoral to have this happen. this is what congress is passing on to us and s why conservatives in the house and senate need to be serious about these fiscal cliff tops, especially about the debt ceiling, not just sitting back and saying president obama won the election. if we don't act now my generation will spend our prime years being servants of the government, and that's not right. tom: i hope...
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all these governments have debt and there's only one way to pay it back and it's to devalue their own currency. and it's a race to the bottom. >> reporter: there are other factors that could also help support gold prices. central banks worldwide have been boosting their gold holdings to diversify their portfolios, and protect against inflation. this year, central banks bought roughly 500 metric tons of gold, up 8% from last year. in addition, many small investors are buying gold as a safehaven from global instability. >> political certainty is a major driving factor. it is not just here. but, in the western europe, and in the far east. and, in china. >> reporter: strong demand for gold exchange traded funds has also helped support prices. the spider gold trust-- ticker gld-- has $75 billion in assets. and it's is backed by physical gold. it also helps that some hedge funds with bylaws prohibiting them from buying futures, can buy gold e.t.f.'s. >> so there are some people that were restricted before. they're not now, and that's supportive of the gold. >> reporter: a gold rally is not
all these governments have debt and there's only one way to pay it back and it's to devalue their own currency. and it's a race to the bottom. >> reporter: there are other factors that could also help support gold prices. central banks worldwide have been boosting their gold holdings to diversify their portfolios, and protect against inflation. this year, central banks bought roughly 500 metric tons of gold, up 8% from last year. in addition, many small investors are buying gold as a...
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all these governments have debt and there's only one way to pay it back and it's to devalue their own currency. and it's a race to the bottom. >> reporter: there are other factors that could also help support gold prices. central banks worldwide have been boosting their gold holdings to diversify their portfolios, and protect against inflation. this year, central banks bought roughly 500 metric tons of gold, up 8% from last year. in addition, many small investors are buying gold as a safehaven from global instability. >> political certainty is a major driving factor. it is not just here. but, in the western europe, and in the far east. and, in china. >> reporter: strong demand for gold exchange traded funds has also helped support prices. the spider gold trust-- ticker gld-- has $75 billion in assets. and it's is backed by physical gold. it also helps that some hedge funds with bylaws prohibiting them from buying futures, can buy gold e.t.f.'s. >> so there are some people that were restricted before. they're not now and that's supportive of the gold. >> reporter: a gold rally is not a
all these governments have debt and there's only one way to pay it back and it's to devalue their own currency. and it's a race to the bottom. >> reporter: there are other factors that could also help support gold prices. central banks worldwide have been boosting their gold holdings to diversify their portfolios, and protect against inflation. this year, central banks bought roughly 500 metric tons of gold, up 8% from last year. in addition, many small investors are buying gold as a...
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we actually spend, government spends more per citizen on the average american than the french government does in the average frenchman. lou: i think you're being unfair to americans. we think of quebec, but certainly not all of canada, and more of our refuge. reach extreme. >> they're building a maple curtain. you better get there soon. lo as we ok at what is happening, bill archer is talking about $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities as we cannot manage even e 16 tllion in debt r consecute years of italian dollar efcits, brought to us by george w. bush, and all fairness. >> well, i think the point he is that when people make coarisons, comparisons are relevant because you can run the numbers ansay in tms of gdp -- relation to gdp or never, we are not quite as bad as greece or portugal ornever, but they are just talking about a fe ring keating billions. a trillion word is really unique to the united states. and i think that is what is going to kill us, the absolute numbers. germany can affo to bailout greece. nobodyan afford to bailout the united states, and i would agree actually th bil
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making home affordable is a free government program. call now to talk one on one with a housing expert about the options that are right for you. real help, real answers right now. ♪ >> to tell me to get out of the class. i said, no poor because in the hallway. that's like wearing a kk shirt because she knows nothing about a. tom: she claims her teacher martyr. now our family is suing. the lawsuit is claiming the philadelphia school district ignored that ight to free speech and let other students harasser and subject her to an emotional distress. to our legal eagles in tonight's let me be brief segment, trial attorneys says -- samantha has a good case. debra plumb sides with the school. deborah, let's start with you. why is the school right? >> the school was not involved. the teacher was acting in an individual capacity, not in her official capacity. granted, her actions were completely wrong. the evidence does not support that the school had promulgated a policy of limiting the students' free-speech, so the school is absolutely not l
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government government involved. the feds are no good at picking what technologies regular americans are going to glom on to. did the department of energy create amazon.com so people would save gas driving to the mall? no, they did not. did the post office invent skype so people could get in touch more inexpensively? no, they did not. breakthrough products invented by private companies. let's stick to cars since that's where we started. model t, 104 years ago the nation's first touring vehicle was first produced on assembly line. henry ford said his car s for the great multitude and how 16.5 milli model-ts were eventually sold. 16 1. how about th biggest selling american made vehicle ever, ford f-sies, trucks. amazing 35 million of those were sold since the trucks were introduced way back in 1948 and it is ranked as the number one selling vehicle in the u.s. for 24 years. and now, you can trick them out just like a sedan with tv screens, high-tech sound systems, even back seats. but none of this, none of this require
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people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you don't have to be as clear as i but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, once again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed? >> i think republicans will get blamed, but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically say -- >> they're voting for a tax cut. >> do they presume t
people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you...
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people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very important. there are things that we need for the quality of our life. good transportation. public safety. decent education. you can't do those only through the private sector. >> let me ask you quickly, i'd like to use your perspective in 30-plus years you've been in congress, and this is the least productive congress ever. i'm sure i don't need to tell you the numbers but it's 219 bills passed, some of them pretty much inconsequential. i think the previous low number of bills passed was 333. how do you think we got to this point? how di
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the most notable political quotes of the year. which quote tops it? that's ahead. and this is "hardball" the place for politics. >>> we're wac. 2012 is coming to a close. let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotations. everything from the historic, to the infamous to the absurd. for the 7th year, fred shapiro has released his list of the top ten quotes. which ones will stand the test of time? you be the judge. joining me right now is a columnist for bloomburg review. gentlemen, get in your starting gates. here's the number one, actually, the number seven quote of the year, it happened in march while the republi
you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the...
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you have forest service, 30% of the land is owned by the federal government. so there's a lot of federal dollars that come to montana. that's part of the system. >> what would be the economic impact, going back to what the farmer was telling us about the situation, if estate taxes go up 55%. we're going to see farmers cutting back on the size of their farms, some may even go out of business. what's the economic impact and how can you mitigate that, governor? >> the difficulty here is over the long-term. naturally, sometime during january if we go over the cliff which is more of a hill, these congressmen will come to their senses. they've gone completely crazy and apparently if you vote for something on december tlonl, then it's okay with grover nor quist and if it's after december 31st, it's something else. look, a pledge is one thing, but look right now we've been spending money on a credit card nationally for the last ten years without paying for it. both parties have been doing it. it's time to pay down. spend less and we have to raise more money. >> that's
you have forest service, 30% of the land is owned by the federal government. so there's a lot of federal dollars that come to montana. that's part of the system. >> what would be the economic impact, going back to what the farmer was telling us about the situation, if estate taxes go up 55%. we're going to see farmers cutting back on the size of their farms, some may even go out of business. what's the economic impact and how can you mitigate that, governor? >> the difficulty here...
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that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate impact on people with unemployment insurance and other things? i mean, what happens if we go over this cliff? >> well, you really have to distinguish between going over the cliff and quickly reversing the damage, meaning in a matter of weeks, which is still
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about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! this season, discover aleve. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality
about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ]...
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they're here and they want to really quite frankly dismantle government. i think that's what you have seen. you know, an effort by the far right, the tea party republicans, to obstruct and stop everything that we could move forward to, one, reduce the deficit, two, create jobs, three, protect medicare, social security, medicaid, and, four, to create the american dream for all. you've seen this obstructionist congress do that. so, yes, we need a full debate so the american people can see who is where, who is doing what, who values the 98%, who supports oil subsidies for the oil companies versus who supports medicare and social security for our senior citizens, who supports investments in our job creation and infrastructure versus who supports continuing profits for the 1%. yeah, we need a full debate so the american people will see what is exactly taking place in congress. >> california congresswoman barbara lee, happy new year. thanks for coming on a. >> thank you. >> a deal has been reached to avert going over the so-called milk cliff but the threat of $8
they're here and they want to really quite frankly dismantle government. i think that's what you have seen. you know, an effort by the far right, the tea party republicans, to obstruct and stop everything that we could move forward to, one, reduce the deficit, two, create jobs, three, protect medicare, social security, medicaid, and, four, to create the american dream for all. you've seen this obstructionist congress do that. so, yes, we need a full debate so the american people can see who is...
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most notable political quotes of the year. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> we're back. 2012 is coming to a close. but, before it does, let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotes. quotations that were uttered this year. everything from the historic to the infamous to, of c
you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most...
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some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains last thursday and private arrangements were made over the weekend. you'll know lanza killed 20 first graders and 6 adults at sandy hook elementary school before committing suicide. >>> also, at least nine people killed and more than two dozen injured after a bus plumed down a ramp. it's known to be a dangerous area. >>> a new health complications of venezuelan president chavez. he is in cuba for cancer surgery three weeks ago. officials say chavez's condition is, quote, delicate and he might not be able to return to venezuela in time for his inauguration in january. >>> coming up, are you worried about what will happen if
some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains...
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because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of the war. as kelly just said, boehner put forward the plan b only to withdraw it when he could not rustle up enough republican votes, and since then he is more of an observer than a player in the crisis. joining me is rob acosta, and "republic's" john stein. as we just heard from kelly o'donnell, they will be faced with needing democrats to get this deal through if we do indeed have a deal, and then he has to go back to the caucus and say, re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> well, these are two separate questions, richard. on the first point, boehner has a tough time corralling some of the republic
because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of...
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, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under medicare by making sure that 30% cut to the providers don't go through. th
, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to...
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in the long run that is what i'm worried about, how big is government? how much of our economy's resources will be diverted and consumed by government? because i don't want to become greece or france or one of these stagnant slow growth welfare states. think evidence is very clear that fiscal policy does matter for an economy's performance. doesn't mean we have a recession if taxes go up but it does mean that government will be bigger and our growth rate in the long run maybe instead of 2.7, it is 2.6. that doesn't sound like much but because of compounding it adds up. adam: dan, i don't think there is any danger we become greece or france in a lot of ways. we're not a socialist country yet and greece is a whole different ball of wax. rich, the discussion about the econy, the spending cuts that they're talking about do put people out of work and that would have a negative effect on the economy, would it not? >> it would, adam. real quick, a bit of news here. president obama will deliver a statement at 4:45, something i imagine we'll cover live here on fo
in the long run that is what i'm worried about, how big is government? how much of our economy's resources will be diverted and consumed by government? because i don't want to become greece or france or one of these stagnant slow growth welfare states. think evidence is very clear that fiscal policy does matter for an economy's performance. doesn't mean we have a recession if taxes go up but it does mean that government will be bigger and our growth rate in the long run maybe instead of 2.7, it...
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the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here on really how far we want to bend or whether or not we want to break people that are the most vulnerable. and i think this is going to be a test. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you so much, and happy new year to you. >> happy new year. >>> we will be back in a moment with more on the apparent deal to avert the worst of the fiscal cliff. please stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's
the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here...
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it had already been blasted by the government critics as anti-entrepreneur. a critic said it was fiscal bludgeoning, the government trying to balance budget on back of the rich. it sparked word that some high rollers were going to leigh the country including well-known french actor set to move his home to next dor lower tax belgium. high tax in french residents is not defeated. the court threw out the tax on technicality. saying it was imposed on the individuals rather than the tax structure of the household. they are planning to reissue a rewarded tax bill to claim there are new tax hikes that the court didn't donnel or left in place. regardless the forever stock market seemed to like the message it bucked a europe wide down trend and up half a percent in a shortened trading day. bret? >> bret: greg, thank you. let's take a look at wall street's reaction to the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations and what happened today. fox business network senior washington correspondent peter barnes at the white house tonight with the latest. good evening. >> good evening.
it had already been blasted by the government critics as anti-entrepreneur. a critic said it was fiscal bludgeoning, the government trying to balance budget on back of the rich. it sparked word that some high rollers were going to leigh the country including well-known french actor set to move his home to next dor lower tax belgium. high tax in french residents is not defeated. the court threw out the tax on technicality. saying it was imposed on the individuals rather than the tax structure of...
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making home affordable is a free government program. call now to talk one on one with a housing expert about the options that are right for you. real help, real answers right now. gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get thi done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for iediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, they left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been
making home affordable is a free government program. call now to talk one on one with a housing expert about the options that are right for you. real help, real answers right now. gerri: president obama calling on congress to act to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president said he is optimistic. modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. here is the president. >> i still want to get thi done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and for our entire...
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government, for states, cities. you name it. a lot of unanswered questions here right now. >> bret: cheryl casone in new york. cheryl, thank you. we will be watching the markets, especially the asian markets when they open in just 30 minutes. thank you. the question is now what happens with the u.s. house of representatives? how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we have a live interview with the vice chairman of the budget committee. he will join us on the other side of this break. [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. looking live at the house floor gaveled back in session. take vote that don't deal with the fiscal cliff legislation and counting heads semil
government, for states, cities. you name it. a lot of unanswered questions here right now. >> bret: cheryl casone in new york. cheryl, thank you. we will be watching the markets, especially the asian markets when they open in just 30 minutes. thank you. the question is now what happens with the u.s. house of representatives? how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we...
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important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you. john boehner as we heard from kelly o'donnell is going to have to face meeting democrats if we have a deal. then he's going to have to go back to his caucus and say re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> i think it's two separate questions, richard. on the first point he's going to have a difficult time to corral votes. if the president bring his 250 plan to the house floor, you're not going to see many republicans go after it. but at the same time i think boehner is pretty safe when it comes to his speakership. if gentlemen were making noise against the speaker, there would be huge trouble. i think boehner'
important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you....
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it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy bro
it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling....
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all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should not allow income tax breaks of the last decade to continue, that's fine. i think they simply need to be willing to balance that with some of the democratic priorities like extending unemployment insurance benefits for nearly 2 million unemployed americans who will lose them tomorrow. >> thank you senator chris coons for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up, former president george h.w. bush is out of icu, and the how the oak ridge boys may have helped lift his spirits. >>> and with less than 30 hours to go before the fiscal cliff, we're watching capitol hill for any kinds of a deal today. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down fr
all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should not allow income tax breaks of the last decade to continue, that's fine. i think they simply need to be willing to balance that with some of the democratic priorities like...
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>> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge though is that republicans feel like they're in such a corner here, the house is in disarray, boehner doesn't really know where his caucus is going to go. they're not really worried about grover's pledge. they're more worried about rebuilding the party and surviving this horrible moment when they barely control one chamber. >> okay. so i want to run this by you. charles krauthammer from "the washington post" has suggested this kind of complicated theory that the president has a bigger plan here. wonder if we can play this tape of what he says the president's strategy is. >> he's been using this, and i must say with great
>> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge...
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. >> i would say that sometimes he governs like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful
. >> i would say that sometimes he governs like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the...
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in that light please simply grow up, govern, but more importantly support middle class policies. >> all right. so both parties now telling us they want to fix this thing. they don't want to go, you know, head first over the fiscal cliff at midnight. how they're going to get there, though, still uncertain with mere hours to go. it's not just the i-reporters baffled and worried about the fiscal cliff. wall street is baffled and worried. let's get straight to alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. investors clearly on edge and stocks are lower and up and down, they aren't going to make any big moves on the last day of the year not knowing what's going to happen with the cliff. >> a wait and see mode, christine. the stocks are flat right now. the investors are waiting for lawmakers to make their move. what's interesting this session, stocks started off deeper in the red. they turned around. they're more flat now because the market really is trading on these headlines coming out of washington. right now those headlines seem more positive than negative. volatility could pick up toward t
in that light please simply grow up, govern, but more importantly support middle class policies. >> all right. so both parties now telling us they want to fix this thing. they don't want to go, you know, head first over the fiscal cliff at midnight. how they're going to get there, though, still uncertain with mere hours to go. it's not just the i-reporters baffled and worried about the fiscal cliff. wall street is baffled and worried. let's get straight to alison kosik at the new york...
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we fall off the cliff, the fear is that we fall off the cliff, not slowly glide down the cliffch the government at this point needs to understand that we should be able to trust you to do the right thing, put politics aside and think about us, the people that's why we have government. fix it. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... you know it even after all these years. but your erectile dysfunction - you know,that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to tr
we fall off the cliff, the fear is that we fall off the cliff, not slowly glide down the cliffch the government at this point needs to understand that we should be able to trust you to do the right thing, put politics aside and think about us, the people that's why we have government. fix it. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a...
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the amendment which had govern the a lot of u.s.-russian/soviet relations going back to the 1970s had to be replaced. it was replaced in congress by the act which set russia's worst human viets violators there should be consequences when it comes to getting visas. vladimir mute indecided to lash out to the united states by pointing a figurative rifle at the head of russia's orphans. >> we improve russia's trade relation with us, officially and then he gets upset because buried within there is a little clause that says, as you point out, the worst human rights violators should have trouble getting into the united states. how far should we go, throw, right? i brought this up last night and i'll bring it up again with you. in the united states we believe that people all over the world have certain rights regardless of geography, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of religion. they are inalienable and it is unfathomable to us that there are parts of the world where they don't believe that. it's amazing, but true. how far do we go in pu
the amendment which had govern the a lot of u.s.-russian/soviet relations going back to the 1970s had to be replaced. it was replaced in congress by the act which set russia's worst human viets violators there should be consequences when it comes to getting visas. vladimir mute indecided to lash out to the united states by pointing a figurative rifle at the head of russia's orphans. >> we improve russia's trade relation with us, officially and then he gets upset because buried within...
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i am on the government and the need help. gerri: you make a good point. if there is some kind of real resolution, can we see some kind of recovery in the economy? what the markets grade whatever deal comes out? i can't imagine -- i guess i'm just being negative. cutting entitlemenspending in all the things we really need to do like making the tax system more fair and easy to unerstand you just cross your arms. >> my body language. if we have this deal we will not get taxreform. we will not give genuine spending cuts because with this president to mike cuttingdown the republicans piece by piece a little bit at a time. this is their last stand outside atlanta. think of atlanta as american capitalism. if they give intonight, if they give in on monday and pass these tax increases, the president will get what he wants. there will be deficit reduction, and the next president will inherit the kind of situation that today characterizes come by once a greece, too extreme, but i would say italy. holy irresponsible fr any republican member of the house of representa
i am on the government and the need help. gerri: you make a good point. if there is some kind of real resolution, can we see some kind of recovery in the economy? what the markets grade whatever deal comes out? i can't imagine -- i guess i'm just being negative. cutting entitlemenspending in all the things we really need to do like making the tax system more fair and easy to unerstand you just cross your arms. >> my body language. if we have this deal we will not get taxreform. we will...
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gerri: the federal government hasn't said which one to do yet. before lisa jackson left her job, here's what she had to say. >> i will read it to you, actually. we have that? gerri: tracking is perfectly capable of being queen, she says. it requires smart regulations, smart rules of the road. so it sounds like she is not outlawing it altogether. on one hand, but on the other hand, we have seen what happens to the war on coal. if the obama administration came out all guns blazing. is that why do you think there will be a war against cracking? >> when they set their own definition of what smart regulation is, yes, they will set smart regulation at a level that makes it virtually impossible. that is what has happened in the coal mines in west virginia and kentucky, where new permits have come to a screeching halt for four years. what would happen with tracking is that when the states lose control to the federal government they throw their hands. then you are waiting for a federal regulator in washington dc or some regional office to decide on the ge
gerri: the federal government hasn't said which one to do yet. before lisa jackson left her job, here's what she had to say. >> i will read it to you, actually. we have that? gerri: tracking is perfectly capable of being queen, she says. it requires smart regulations, smart rules of the road. so it sounds like she is not outlawing it altogether. on one hand, but on the other hand, we have seen what happens to the war on coal. if the obama administration came out all guns blazing. is that...
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if a deal isn't reached, your taxes will go up and government spending will be slashed. dana bash and jessica yellin are covering all angles of the story. let's start with dana on capitol hill who has heard word of a setback in the talks. dana, what do you know? >> setback from the perspective of democrats. we should underscore that. this is any information that is coming out. is coming out for a purpose. this is certainly significant. when it comes to the democrats' perspective. and that is, they are very unhappy and they call a quote poison pill. what they say is an offer from the republicans to include in this deal, which has been from the democrats perspective, mostly focused on taxes to include in it, a change in a technical way that social security is done. what it effectively would mean is that social security recipients would get smaller checks each month. something that the president himself did offer as part of a larger deal when he was in those talks with the house speaker. and ha democrats would say is we're past that. we're not in the larger negotiations any
if a deal isn't reached, your taxes will go up and government spending will be slashed. dana bash and jessica yellin are covering all angles of the story. let's start with dana on capitol hill who has heard word of a setback in the talks. dana, what do you know? >> setback from the perspective of democrats. we should underscore that. this is any information that is coming out. is coming out for a purpose. this is certainly significant. when it comes to the democrats' perspective. and that...
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i think this is a terrible way to govern. i think it is an insult to every american. i think it's an absurdity. we're with family in wisconsin and florida, and every day, normal people think this is crazy. >> what would you do, mr mr. speaker, if the legislation came to the house of representatives tomorrow? >> i would have gone home. first of all, how is it going to come? what is it going to be? the senate is going to deem something has passed, to be written by the staff later? that's what they did with obama care. that's how the senate has done on a bipartisan basis, tax bills for i think the last 30 years. they deem this stuff -- they voted. they go home and say, look what we accomplished. nobody knows what's in the bill. none of the details are clear. there have been no hearings, no mark ups no amendments. this is as bad as the original obama passing a $780 billion stimulus that nobody had read. or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second.
i think this is a terrible way to govern. i think it is an insult to every american. i think it's an absurdity. we're with family in wisconsin and florida, and every day, normal people think this is crazy. >> what would you do, mr mr. speaker, if the legislation came to the house of representatives tomorrow? >> i would have gone home. first of all, how is it going to come? what is it going to be? the senate is going to deem something has passed, to be written by the staff later?...
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about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's
about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a...
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potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president, so we expect him to be out soon. john, just quickly, because we are close here, kristen mentioned pr campaigns. the president, as you say, campaign style approach to this entire debate different many some ways than certainly economic stimulus, and a little bit different than health care. is this lessons learned from those two fights? >> i think it's partly that, and i think he has learned, look, he has public leverage, but he doesn't necessarily have private leverage. he doesn't have republican votes in the house. you use what weapons you have as a president, and the pu
potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president,...